ME, 1280 ft. lbs. The CZ 527 Varmint rifle chambered in .204 Ruger is a reliable, accurate bolt-action rifle that works well on the range or in the field hunting predators. 1000 Yards: .224 Valkyrie Vs. 6.5 Creedmoor The .22 Nosler offers a noticeable improvement in ballistics when compared to the .223 Remington. Federal Premium, which developed the cartridge, is already offering factory loaded ammunition with 60 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Varmint and 90 grain Fusion bonded soft point hunting bullets. For that reason, Hornady offers the .224 Valkyrie as part of their Varmint Express line of ammo. Drop is 733 inches and windage is 173.47 inches. Both of these developments have eaten into the edge previously enjoyed by the .224 Valkyrie. Trajectory: +/- 3" MPBR = 246 yards (far zero at 209 yards). Engineered for rapid expansion at a wide range of impact velocities, this ammo uses bullets with a lead core chemically fused to the jacket to minimize the chances of core-jacket separation. at 300 yds. 224 Valkyrie is a One Trick Pony for shooters trying to max their AR15's performance at 1000 yards by using heaviest bullet that will fit inside the magazine. A slower 1:8″ twist rate is pretty common with the 22 Nosler. If you’d rather listen than read, you can either just press play below or click the appropriate link to download the episode through your preferred service. The same can be said about varmint hunting with the .204 Ruger or the .22-250 Rem. It is just barely adequate for hunting deer at 100 yards. ME, 1252 ft. lbs. If you subscribe to the theory that 1,000 foot pounds of energy is a good minimum rule of thumb for hunting deer, then that 90 grain .224 Valkyrie load is acceptable for deer out just past 225 yards while the .223 Remington and 22 Nosler loads fall below that threshold inside 25 yards and just shy of 150 yards respectively. 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In particular, the Savage MSR 15 is the poster child for an AR-15 style rifle chambered in 224 Valkyrie. The cartridge has an extremely mild recoil and is capable of excellent accuracy. The 224 Valkyrie is based on the 6.8 SPC case and retains the same rim diameter. Its claim to fame is heavy for caliber bullets staying supersonic out to extended ranges. A mild recoil also facilitates with spotting misses and taking a rapid follow up shot both at the range and afield. On the other hand, while the 22 Nosler still has the flattest trajectory of the bunch with the heavier big game load, the .224 Valkyrie has an even bigger advantage in retained energy. However, as we drill down into the details of their similarities and differences though, several factors emerge that are important to keep in mind. Note: This article is mirrored on the Rifle Cartridge Comparisons index page. There are currently only a few options for loaded rifle ammunition, but that list is slowly growing and there are a few pretty good options for both big game and varmint hunting. Complete Upper … Make sure you follow The Big Game Hunting Blog on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube. At the same time, like the 6.8 Remington SPC, the .224 Valkyrie has a rim diameter of .422″. Even so, the ability of the 224 Valkyrie to use those really aerodynamic bullets with very minimal recoil (which can help facilitate a rapid follow up shot) makes it a compelling choice for some shooters. While the 224 Valkyrie was designed primarily to offer improved performance at long range for shooters who want to use a .22 caliber cartridge in an AR-15, it does offer advantages to hunters as well. The data used to compare the trajectory of the cartridges was obtained from Nosler (here and here) and Federal (here, here, here, and here). John Snow’s article for Outdoor Life was used as a reference for the history of the 224 Valkyrie. The three cartridges have several things in common. Complete Upper Halves. It is the ultimate for coyotes thus far in factory offerings in the AR 15 platform. It’s a fantastic little cartridge and I’m sure it will serve you well afield. On the other hand, the .224 Valkyrie and .22 Nosler generally offer better ammunition options for big game hunting than the .223 Remington. Finally, all three have the same maximum overall length of 2.26″, which means they’ll fit in an AR-15. The company now manufactures 22 Nosler ammo using their extremely aerodynamic 85 grain Reduced Drag Factor (RDF) bullet. In this article, I’m going to cut through the hype in order to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the .224 Valkyrie cartridge in detail. The Ruger is a much more known quantity. Though using a .22 caliber cartridge for hunting deer sized game (especially with lighter bullets) is still a somewhat controversial subject, that 90 grain load is one of the better options out there. Nor is the .22-250 the highest performance .22 caliber varmint cartridge. This helps support the blog and allows me to continue to create free content that’s useful to hunters like yourself. The 224 Valkyrie is a little more common than the .22 Nosler, but there’s still a relatively limited selection of Valkyrie ammo. [Re: Slowflyte] varminter .223 Die Hard Member III Registered: 03/01/10 Posts: 2715 Loc: south central Illinois 22 Nosler has advantage over the valkyrie out too 300 imo. Practically any common Class 2 game cartridge from .24 caliber on up would be a preferable deer cartridge. Even so, I’m not sure that is a big enough reason for most hunters to transition over to the .224 Valkyrie on its own. One of Federal’s initial 224 Valkyrie loads fired that 90 grain, high BC projectile at 2,700 fps, which was absolutely unheard of performance from a .22 caliber rifle cartridge that would fit in an AR-15 platform at the time. The 224 Valkyrie crosses the 1,300-yard line in 2.31 seconds (Mach 1.005), with a velocity of 1,122 fps and 252 foot-pounds of energy. Due in part to the fact that the cartridge is relatively new, there aren’t many options for factory .224 Valkyrie hunting ammo right now. The Hornady 10th Edition (p160-168), reloading manual was also used as a reference for the history of the cartridges and provided data to compare their size and recoil. with a 27" 1-7 twist barrel. Even the 6.5mm Grendel, also designed for use in AR-15 type rifles and generally inferior to other 6.5mm cartridges, is clearly superior to the .224 Valkyrie at all ranges. Any one of those 20's will keep up with the 22-250 and will do it burning less powder and recoil. 22-250 vs 224 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Clash Of the Speed Demons. Here’s what all the ballistic data means for shooters. Unfortunately, most AR-15 type rifles sport much shorter barrels (20" or less) that significantly degrade its already inferior performance as a hunting cartridge. Additionally, all three have the same SAAMI maximum pressure of 55,000. It's finicky (go look at all the reloading/accuracy chasing that's gone on with these things, it's just not an easy to load cartridge) and the bullet is too small for good spots out at 1000y. Since the cartridge uses a completely new case, it’s not even possible to form .22 Nosler brass from a different cartridge case. Look for barrels with a twist ratio of 1:7. From rifles with equal-length barrels, the .22 Nosler’s 85-grain beats the velocity of the .224 Valkyrie’s 90-grain by 50 fps—2,750 fps versus 2,700 fps respectively. Bullet diameter: .224” Uses: Varmints, predators, and small deer Effective Range: 0-600 yds./varmints, predators, 0-200 yds./small deer Advantages: Like other new AR rounds the 224 Valkyrie is new to the market and has not yet really found a home. Basically every sporting goods store will have a good selection of reasonably priced .223 Remington ammo and rifles. ME, 1424 ft. lbs. Interest in long range precision shooting has seen a tremendous amount of growth in the past few years. Valkyries are female figures in Norse mythology that choose who will die in battle and then take their chosen ones to the Valhalla. So, if the 90 grain Federal Fusion ammo isn’t really your cup of tea and you prefer something with even more controlled expansion and higher weight retention, or if you need to use lead free ammo, then this ammo loaded with their 78gr TSX bullet is perfect for you. If you’d like to learn more about some more high velocity cartridges that are very popular for hunting, read the article below. The .204 Ruger is a cartridge capable of purging a lot of song dogs from farms, or for high-speed fun at the range. Though the .223 Remington and 22 Nosler both have a .378″ rim diameter, the .223 Remington is a rimless case while the 22 Nosler has a rebated rim. A few weeks later, my editor had a brainstorm: How about a scientific comparison? As you can see, all three cartridges have a very similar trajectory with the lighter 55gr and 60gr varmint loads. There is a little bit more difference when talking about the heavier bullets though. For these reasons, heavy for caliber bullets will fit in the magazine, reliably chamber, and shoot accurately in 224 Valkyrie rifles. The .204 Ruger is the most pleasant of these three cartridges to shoot and the most pleasant cartridge included in this article. I do not know enough about the intricacies of PRS shooting to judge how valid is the argument for the .224 Valkyrie. If you handload the 20 practical or 20 tactical. The table below compares 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tip Varmint (.266 BC) and 62gr Federal Fusion Soft Point (.310 BC) loads in .223 Remington, 60gr Nosler Ballistic Tip Varmint (.270 BC) and 90gr Federal Fusion Soft Point (.424 BC) loads in .224 Valkyrie, and 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tip Varmint (.266 BC) and 70gr Nosler AccuBond (.370 BC) loads in 22 Nosler. In that situation, the superior ballistic coefficient of the 90 grain bullets used by the 224 Valkyrie help give it a significant advantage over the other two cartridge as the range increases. It’s possible to find FMJ or TMJ ammo for the other two cartridges that’s not as expensive as the premium stuff, but it will still probably cost about twice as much as similar quality ammo for the .223 Remington. Next, let's compare the .224 Valkyrie factory load for deer and other Class 2 game to four larger caliber cartridges, using bullets with sectional densities very close to that of the 90 grain .224 bullet. All in all, this is outstanding 224 Valkyrie ammo for hunting medium game like deer, pronghorn, and feral hogs with a Modern Sporting Rifle. Let's start by comparing the .224 Valkyrie to the very popular .22-250 Remington as a varmint cartridge. The Big Game Hunting Blog is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.ca, Amazon.com.au, and other Amazon stores worldwide. Finally, though the .22 Nosler and .224 Valkyrie will work with a standard AR-15 style rifle, they require the use of 6.8 SPC magazines. The .223 Remington load has about 10% more bullet drop than the 22 Nosler at 500 yards and the 224 Valkyrie load has about 30 ft-lbs (about 7%) more kinetic energy than the 22 Nosler. Not surprisingly, while some people absolutely love the cartridge (and we’ll discuss why in a minute), others are skeptical that the .224 Valkyrie is either the latest flavor of the week or the answer to a non-existent problem. Is the shoulder the same angle? I used the Hornady Ballistic calculator and Shooters Calculator to compare wind drift, the range each bullet goes subsonic, and recoil for the cartridges. at 300 yds. Federal Premium also produces .224 Valkyrie ammo featuring the Barnes Triple Shock-X (TSX) bullet. That said, the .223 Remington has the most arching trajectory, retains the least energy as it travels downrange, and has the least resistance to wind resistance out of the group. I currently use a 223 A.I. Loaded with a 60 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Varmint bullet at a blazing 3,300fps, this load is great for hunters who want a really fast expanding bullet that rapidly delivers a tremendous amount of energy to game. How Accurate is the .224 Valkyrie? Trajectory: +/- 1.5" MPBR = 235 yards (far zero at 204 yards). As you can probably imagine, there’s been a bunch of buzz around the 224 Valkyrie cartridge from the very start and it does offer some pretty good benefits to hunters and shooters. Copyright 2018 by Gary Zinn and/or chuckhawks.com. This is primarily due to the fact that it has a larger case capacity and is also capable of shooting the same weight bullet 200-300 fps faster than the .223 Remington. On the other hand, 90 grain bullets are very common for the 224 Valkyrie and have been available from the beginning. Punching holes … All rights reserved. Energy: 2297 ft. lbs. While all three cartridges are known for their exceptional accuracy (sub-MOA in the right hands), the 224 Valkyrie cartridge in particular is better suited to use high BC and high SD, heavy for caliber match grade hunting bullets than the .223 Remington because of the aforementioned differences in cartridge design and faster rifling twist in rifles chambered for that cartridge. That being said, we’re not exactly swimming in that 6.8 SPC brass either, especially compared to the .223 Remington. at 300 yds. The .224 Valkyrie would generally be inadequate for deer and pronghorn antelope beyond 100 yards and inadequate for larger or tougher Class 2 game at any range. 1:8″ and even 1:9″ twist rates are fairly common with the .223 Remington. This means I will earn a small commission (at no extra cost to you) if you make a purchase or rifle, handgun, shotgun, or rimfire ammunition. Having both and others to push away my thoughts are that a 20 Practical will run neck and neck with the 204 in any barrel length and a top end 556 will run so close to the Nosler as to be indistinguishable down range in a shorter more portable package. 224 Valkyrie-69 grain Blitzking 243 Winchester-70 grain Blitzking. Trajectory: +/- 3" MPBR = 307 yards (far zero at 262 yards). Additionally, since the cartridge was made from 6.8 SPC brass, it has a larger case diameter than the .223 Remington, which necessitates the use of a larger bolt face than the other two cartridges. All three cartridges are readily available with bullets in the 50-62 grain range. 22-250 vs 223 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Ammunition Selection. This is especially true when it comes to low cost ammo for practicing and plinking. I do not know much “The .204 Ruger is a centerfire rifle cartridge developed by Hornady and Ruger. That being said, the ability of the Valkyrie to effectively use those 78gr TSX and 90gr Fusion bullets are more sizable advantages for big game hunters. In addition to manufacturing ammo suitable for long range shooting, Federal also opted to manufacture a line of ammunition for that cartridge suitable for big game hunting that still functions well in a modern sporting rifle. Watching Frank make hits at a mile and at 2112 yards really got me thinking about this neat little round. SPC cartridge and so is too large to fit in a 5.56mm magazine, but 6.8 mags work just fine. Note that all 10 of the powders listed for the .22-250 in the Nosler Reloading Guide can drive a 60 grain Ballistic Tip bullet to at least 3500 fps MV and eight of the 10 can exceed this velocity by up to 112 fps. ME, 1144 ft. lbs. Cartridges like the 6mm Creedmoor, 6mm Dasher, 6x47mm Lapua, 6XC, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 6.5×47 Lapua all have substantial advantages over the 224 Valkyrie in terms of trajectory and resistance to wind drift. To further illustrate that same point, consider the supersonic ranges of the three cartridges. This new cartridge from Federal is designed for speed at long range. Now if you’re into long range shooting and you want to also use that cartridge for a little hunting on the side, then the .224 Valkyrie makes a whole lot more sense. The following data for velocity, energy, trajectory and killing power score (KPS) is taken from 24" test barrels. 22 Nosler vs. 224 Valkyrie vs. 223 Rem Experience what shooters around the world are calling the ultimate varmint hunting platform when you transform your standard AR into a 22 Nosler. Chuck Hawks (here), the American Rifleman (here), and Nosler (here) provided the case capacity for each cartridge. This is another outstanding choice for hog or deer hunting with the 224 Valkyrie. Regardless of how well a given person handles recoil, all other things being equal, they will absolutely shoot better with a milder recoil, which is very similar for all three cartridges. The .22-250 Remington is the next most common. However, they set out from the very beginning to build a cartridge that was also capable of using longer, heavier, and more aerodynamic bullets. If you want to pursue accuracy and distance, then the easiest solution is get rid of the magazine length restriction by either moving to an AR10 or a Bolt Gun. at 100 yds., 1890 ft. lbs. Federal also really helped out their marketing and promotional efforts with their name choice for the cartridge. The .223 Remington has a 23 degree shoulder while the .224 Valkyrie and 22 Nosler both have a steeper 30 degree shoulder. Energy: 1961 ft. lbs. Neither the 22 Nosler nor the 224 Valkyrie is really rare, but they can’t hold a candle to the .223 Remington in that regard though. “The 224 Valkyrie is based on a 30 Rem./6.8 SPC case necked down to .224 caliber. John Snow’s article for Outdoor Life was used as a reference for the history of the 224 Valkyrie. If that sounds like what you want, then strongly consider using this ammunition for coyote, bobcat, and prairie dog hunting. Velocity: 3300 fps MV, 2930 fps at 100 yds., 2589 fps at 200 yds, 2273 fps at 300 yds. The 204 Ruger was developed from the .222 Remington Magnum, which has the second largest case capacity in the family that began with the .222 Remington. Since it is pretty new, many companies are still in the stages of development. .22 Nosler ammunition and rifles are not as easy to find or a reasonably priced as .223 Remington ammo though. Like the 90gr Fusion load, this is also great .224 Valkyrie ammo for deer hunting. Short barrels will hobble both. at 300 yds. at 200 yds., 909 ft. lbs. The .224 Valkyrie was designed primarily for use in AR-15 type autoloading rifles, although it can also be used in bolt actions. #3127277 - 01/29/18 07:46 PM Re: 22 Nosler vs. 224 Valkyrie? Unlike the .22 Nosler, reloaders can form 224 Valkyrie brass from 6.8 SPC brass. Shooters also cannot use bullets larger than .308″ or with a velocity higher than 3,200 feet per second. At the same time, the popularity of AR-15 style rifles has dramatically increased among American hunters and shooters as well. Even so, initial 22 Nosler offerings used bullets that topped out around the 77 grain mark, which is also about as heavy as you’ll commonly find bullets used in .223 Remington factory ammo. - Nosler reloading data using 60 grain Nosler BT; BC .270, SD .171. Federal also manufactures a couple of varmint loads in the cartridge as well. Velocity: 2900 fps MV, 2712 fps at 100 yds., 2537 fps at 200 yds., 2369 fps at 300 yds. In addition, Hornady also offers an 88-grain Valkyrie ELD Match load. Velocity: 3500 fps MV, 3112 fps at 100 yds., 2758 fps at 200 yds., 2431 fps at 300 yds. That’s really the biggest factor that sets the .224 Valkyrie apart from the other two cartridges: the .224 Valkyrie was designed from the beginning to use the longest and heaviest bullets possible without sacrificing case capacity and while still functioning in semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15 as well as bolt action rifles. Even fewer catch on, and the latest to do so is the .224 Valkyrie. This is primarily due to the fact that the cartridge was specifically designed to use very heavy, long, and aerodynamic bullets. Note: while the powder capacity figures listed below do give a good indication of the differences between the two cartridges, exact case capacities vary slightly according to the brand of brass used. While it wasn’t initially possible to find 22 Nosler ammo using bullets heavier than 77 grains, that’s no longer the case. Based on brass availability I would go Ruger. Compared to other cartridges commonly used in AR-15 style rifles, those long, sleek Sierra MatchKing bullets retain energy exceptionally well, are very resistant to wind drift, and have a very flat trajectory at long range. One of the biggest strengths of the .224 Valkyrie is the ability of the cartridge to effectively use 90 grain bullets and still function reliably in an AR platform. There’s virtually no difference in wind drift between the lighter varmint bullets in the three cartridges: just .2″ of separation between the .224 Valkyrie and the 22 Nosler and 1.6″ between the .223 Remington and 22 Nosler at 500 yards. Dog hunting at Nosler were largely successful in achieving their goals of reasonably priced.223 Remington rifles Remington,. 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